was submitted to various Australian Shepherd internet discussion lists by a
breeder who claims that some of her dogs bred from Hangin' Tree bloodlines had
epilepsy. Unfortunately, since none of the dogs that supposedly were
affected are still living, the diagnosis cannot be confirmed. The Hangin'
Tree bloodline and Aussies in general would have greatly benefited if the
breeder had acknowledged this alleged problem years ago while the dogs were
alive. So while we certainly cannot confirm or deny what problems other breeders
have or haven't had with their dogs, here's what we can
truthfully and confidently, tell you about ours:
HOF Sire WTCH Hangin' Tree Blue Bear CD
RD RTDsc PATDsc CGC and his full sister WTCH Peters
Ranch Teal Sydney Bear RD RTDsc. We have owned Bear since he was
five months old and acquired Syd when she was about fifteen months old.
Bear is now almost nine and Syd is seven. We also own another Hangin' Tree
bred bitch, Peters Ranch Like a Rocket, that we
have had since she was eight weeks old. Rocket is almost five. To
view pedigrees of these dogs, click on their names.
None of these three dogs has ever
had a seizure of any kind.
We kept three littermates from
the first Blue Bear x Reba cross; they are now five years old. A fourth
littermate was kept until she was two years old. We are in contact with
the other dogs from this litter and
of them have ever had seizures of any kind.
Surely, if these dogs were prone to
seizures, they would have manifested themselves by now.
We have outcrossed the Hangin' Tree lines onto several other bloodlines; among them
Slash V, Woods, Twin Oaks, and Las Rocosa. We have kept offspring from
Blue Bear litters, from Syd, and from Rocket. These dogs now range
in age from a few months to four years.
None of them have ever had seizures
of any kind.
We keep in touch with the owners of
Pincie Creek dogs and follow their progress closely. We have only had one
person who bought a dog from us, from Hangin' Tree lines or other, tell us that
the dog had a seizure. This seizure occurred after the dog had an accident
with a four-wheeler. The veterinarian confirmed that the seizure was
caused from trauma to the head. The dog had never had a seizure before,
recovered completely from the accident, and has not had another seizure.
We operate a working farm with
cattle, sheep, goats, and ducks. We also gather and pen livestock for
other people- often "wild" cows that haven't seen a human in quite a while.
Our dogs earn their living by helping us with this livestock. Many times
they have worked under adverse conditions - in the heat, 100% humidity, cold,
rain, at night - you name it - and by necessity have been pushed to the limits
of their endurance. Since stress can trigger a seizure in a susceptible
dog, if any of ours was susceptible to seizures they certainly should have shown
Never did any of our dogs have a
Anyone who breeds
dogs knows that unforeseen problems and illnesses can occur at any time, without
warning or predisposition. So we don't claim that our dogs are perfect but
we do feel confident in making the statement that our dogs are as sound,
genetically and physically, as any bloodline can be.
We can also truthfully say that we
have never experienced personally, nor know of, any epilepsy in our dogs.
epilepsy (or any other genetic disease) occur in a Pincie Creek dog, we will
stand behind it 100% and will gladly replace it.
We all know that
the Hangin' Tree bloodline has endured its share of criticism.
If any dog we have sold from this bloodline had EVER had a seizure, we feel
certain that not only us, but the entire Aussie world would have known about it.
Just as Hangin' Tree dogs have endured the rumors of the past, we feel confident
that they will endure this rumor, too, and shall prove to the skeptical to be
just what we know they are - some of the soundest (physically,
genetically, and mentally) and best working dogs in the nation.
If you'd like
more general information about canine epilepsy please visit
Club of America site at
as well as doing a web
search for Canine Epilepsy!